A recent IM scroll about the state of our country and its possible future:
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The Defender
Dude I wanna write something, but there is so much stupid shit I don’t know where to begin
The Patriot
tell me about it…
The Defender
I see the revolution on the horizon…this year…
The Patriot
this year?
The Defender
2010…sometime this year….possibly even before the election. Something will set it off….I really think everything is in place…just need the spark
The Patriot
i still don’t think enough of the American people are pissed off. the trouble is that the government seems to be trying to STOP a revolution by giving poor people a ton of free stuff, healthcare, etc. But the poor people aren’t the ones pissed off, its the middle class.
The Defender
I think it’ll be a mob…not a real movement. but its coming
The Patriot
i think some major tax hikes on the rich will drive them to leave the country. Then “the rich” will be the middle class, you and me and the bulk of Americans. THEN we will see the revolution. The poor rarely revolt, but a disillusioned middle class can wreak havoc
The Defender
this union nonsense is going to kill us all
The Patriot
i need to read up on that, get mad and write something. These statist liberals bowing to union boss pressure makes me sick. it just adds to the “us and them” feeling in the middle class.
The Defender
redistribution of wealth. Union takeover. payoffs. bribes.
The Patriot
so what are we missing for a revolution? not a mob protest but a true organized revolution. in my book i identify 5 major factors to a successful revolution: #1 Opposing Force, #2 Polarizing Figure, #3 Human Misery, #4 Unbridled Self-sacrifice and #5 A Trigger Event
The Defender
the government is becoming the tyrannical/opposing force.
The Patriot
#2 polarizing figure
The Defender
could be Palin
The Patriot
no way
The Defender
don’t know…the left hates her ass
if not her…then the Tea Party movement as a whole
The Patriot
it’s gonna be someone from simple beginnings, an ordinary person, but an amazing speaker. I hate to use him as an example, but look at Hitler’s Fascist revolution. came from nowhere,. He was a great orator, and took over a country in misery after the first world war.
The Defender
Joe the Plumber?
The Patriot
Now, he was a mass murderer and this movement will be NOTHING like the Nazi party but the same principles apply. Then again, who was the figure during the first revolution? George Washington? Not a great speaker, but a strong leader.
The Defender
could go either way.
The Patriot
he did have a great speaker as his VP though, John Adams.
What I am saying is that this movement needs a leader!
The Defender
I think that Palin is the most polarizing figure in the country
The Patriot
that much is clear, she is not a strong, persuading leader. She comes from simple beginnings and comes across as an ordinary person, but I don’t think she has the speaking ability required to rally millions.
The Defender
I still think that a Gingrich/Palin ticket in 2012 is the way to go
The Patriot
I disagree, the people are sick of politicians in any form. i think it will be a military vet that rises to the top
The Defender
I think she is strong…and getting stronger….in follower-ship. Thats one of the main traits for your figure
The Patriot
Not really. This will be someone who can capture the minds of the people and show them what a strong leader looks like, not a politician
The Defender
I don’t know….
The Patriot
We don’t need someone that cares for us, we need someone that is willing to sacrifice everything for the sake of the country. people will follow a leader like that and be willing to give everything they have for their liberty, even their own life. That’s what happened the first time.
The Defender
what about that LTC running in FL?
The Patriot
He is awesome! also, I think people want someone to tell them what to do and they will follow orders as long as they are working for the cause.
The Defender
your right about that….not a whole lot of leaders out there…thats what got us into this mess; people just following the government
The Patriot
“take that hill, sgt” that works way better than, “can you guys risk your life for a meaningless hilltop we are going to give them back next week?”
The Defender
your right
The Patriot
#3 human misery
The Defender
Tea Party? I think the misery is on the rise
The Patriot
I don’t think we have enough misery. It’s a strange thing to say, but i think things need to get a little worse before enough people wake up.
The Defender
yeah, but its coming. when the taxes go up so much on the middle class and every one else sits on their ass and gets everything given to them…misery is done
The Patriot
check this out, in 2009 there were 2.5 million foreclosures, this year experts are forecasting 3 million more families losing their homes. Obama wants to tax banks whether they got bailout money or not. of course the banks will pass this on to the people. This can’t continue. It’s coming!
The Defender
Hell yeah…its coming!!
The Patriot
another thing, each year fewer and fewer people actually pay taxes to the government. that means that they are going to work even harder to collect from people that owe less and less.
The Defender
and more businesses are running over seas…not just for the cheaper labor, but lower taxes
The Patriot
True! The more taxes the government puts on us, the fewer people are going to pay them. Hey, have you been watching the specials by judge andrew napolitano on FOX about the Constitution?
The Defender
hell, the people in Obama’s administration don’t pay them now! Geithner, Rangel…thats just a couple…and they are BOTH on the finance committees. No, I haven’t seen it…
The Patriot
i love his segment about the 17 enumerated powers of the congress.
The Defender
The govt is wiping their asses with the constitution
The Patriot
its amazing that the Congress can find ways around the constitution and about 80% of the things they do are unconstitutional, but the courts don’t do their part of “checks and balances.” The courts let the congress do whatever they want and the president tells the congress what he will sign and what he won’t so they basically have to do what he wants. it’s sick… do you remember my article about going to washington to serve vs what we have now, going to washington to rule, gain power and money.
The Defender
yeah… I saw it. The current government is wiping their collective butts with the Constitution. They have forgotten that the People giveth…the People Taketh AWAY!!!!! Its up to the government to figure out how it will be taken away; by ballot or bullet?
The Patriot
politicians today line their pockets with OUR money. they buy votes with bribes and promises, with OUR money. They tell us to live a certain way and then live a different way, with OUR money.
The Defender
you see where NY is wanting to limit salt? The commercials for butter now touts how Denmark lives without trans-fats
The Patriot
lol yeah… since when is it the role of government to “take care of us?” You make a good point. The ballot has gotten us here cause they give people a candidate of a certain skin color, promising to give them everything free and expecting nothing in return. Gee, who is going to win that election? Two party systems only work when the population is close to 50/50. Imagine the nightmare of a 70/30 split in the voting population. It’ll be a coup!
The Defender
Someone made a point yesterday…if so many people work for the govt, who are they going to vote for…the guy to keep govt big or the guy promises less govt? private sector…not public
The Patriot
You know the NY thing is the first step in regulating our lives through healthcare. “but limiting salt reduces healthcare costs, therefore we can provide better services.” BULLSHIT!
The Defender
they are already looking at soda tax, cigarette tax, beer tax…tanning bed tax…etc etc
The Patriot
once the healthcare bill passes, and it WILL pass, you will more and more of this nonsense.
The Defender
its already in there…except for the unions. They are exempt from paying.
The Patriot
I will make you a promise. The longer we go with $4.50 coffees at Starbucks, the sooner we will have a coffee tax.
The Defender
well, good…I don’t pay for Starbucks right now…LOLOL
The Patriot
the government will say something like, “those coffees have too many calories. They make people fat and addicted to caffeine. That raises the cost for everyone else, therefore we must add a tax to every cup of coffee.
The Defender
too much sugar….bad teeth
The Patriot
and this is what i mean. the more and more they do this the more and more people will turn away from them and to a movement that stands for liberty and individual freedom. I hate to say it, but things aren’t bad enough yet.
The Defender
your right…but I think this year it will be not in the next few months…but we have 11 months to go. Stealing the election would be the catalyst
The Patriot
One other thing. I think it is going to be very difficult for most people to take up arms against the federal government. Most people don’t know that the federal army can’t be used to fight the population, but the national guard can. COULD be the catalyst. but, dude, they have been stealing elections for years. So what about #4 unbridled self-sacrifice and #5 Trigger event?
The Defender
ok…4 and 5 working
The Patriot
#4 is the willingness of people to leave their homes, take up arms and fight
The Defender
I saw a random post today on one of the blogs about the guard being federalized….that way (legally) no one in the national guard could fight on US Soil
The Patriot
never gonna happen. They need the National Guard to keep the population in check should something break out. You saw what happened when the troops from Ft. Benning helped that Alabama sheriff with the murder thing a few months ago. People went freaking nuts.
The Defender
but, they did suspend posse comitatus for Katrina in New Orleans
The Patriot
they will start with the police, but once they realize that it is so widespread, the president will ask the governors to call up the guard. Something to think about is what if the governors are on our side? DID THEY??
The Defender
Yes…remember, the 82nd went in and took over the entire effort…Remember????
The Patriot
Hmmmmmm, but I still don’t think most military people would pick up arms against the population anyway. Maybe 30%. and also, there are just not enough people in the military to control a population on 300 million people. Lets say that 100 million people revolted. That would still be almost 30 times the number of people in the armed forces.
The Defender
your right…we only have 1% of the population in the military. Can’t control the population like that.
The Patriot
exactly my point
The Defender
What I’m reading on the blogs, granted they are conservative, is that the people are fed up, and a lot say they are ready to revolt. Two things about that: that is only one point of few (conservative) and talk is cheap…action takes a lot more gumption
The Patriot
So what do we take away from this? Give me your once over and end with your prediction for the future?
The Defender
Two possibilities: One, the conservatives get a backbone and stand up, taking back some seats in 2010 and releasing the tension building in the US. Two, things continue to deteriorate, more and more people are taxed and begin to suffer….and then one tax two far and the Tea Party from 200 years ago looks like a spilled glass.
The Patriot
I respect your opinion but disagree that something will happen this year. I don’t think we have fulfilled all the requirements for an actual revolution.
The Defender
Not yet…but I think its coming.
The Patriot
agreed
The Defender
To be continued!!
